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  Atheists and Anger...

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  are you an angry atheist?.

  personally i wish i could say anger is to strong a word, but from my point of view :-.

  a)i am angry that religion teaches children to hate " worldly people" at least that was my experience ad a j.w.

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  We need to decide if we want to go along with false hope or reality.

  Agreed Punk, but it's not quite so simple that the world can be divided in to " religiouse" outdated sillyness and " science" a new way.Thats why it's nice to debate and use these forums as a sounding board to balance back and forth our thoughts. But at somepoint action becomes more significent and we must decide...

  I have made my decision and i do not come here to convine or convert anyone. Yet each saturday in the high street i meet religiouse people trying to covert me. They say they have the truth and will pray for me? And i get angry when i politely say sorry i think you are wrong, and they take my personal critisam of their religion as a personal attack.
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  Atheists and Anger...

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  are you an angry atheist?.

  personally i wish i could say anger is to strong a word, but from my point of view :-.

  a)i am angry that religion teaches children to hate " worldly people" at least that was my experience ad a j.w.

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  I dont like activisam, but i think it is true that anger has been the driving force for social change. Take for example the civil rights movernment, or the modern feminist movernment, the anti war movernment in the sixties, the anti war movernment today, you name it ....but all of these movernments had a tremendouse amount of anger behind them,anger over injustice and mistreatment and anger over helplessness.

  I mean anger can be a good thing for change. If it wasn't for the anger that came from the realisation i'd been fed a lot of bullshit as a witness, then what is the motivation to leave?

  So i think anger is valuable, its neccessary and the correct word for my O.P. But anger can also missfire and badly.
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  Atheists and Anger...

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  are you an angry atheist?.

  personally i wish i could say anger is to strong a word, but from my point of view :-.

  a)i am angry that religion teaches children to hate " worldly people" at least that was my experience ad a j.w.

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  Well i am dissapointed no lets say angry that because of the Catholic Chuches teachings on birth control women are dying of aids in Africa and South America. I add the point to my earlier post about how " MY" former religion repressed women.

  I get angry that so many religiouse leaders are only in it to steal, cheat, lie ,take sexual advantage of their followers and get rich. ( admittedly this is only a small percentage of religious leaders. Other wise i'd get really angry)

  On the positive side i have met some wonderful religiouse people and have often envied their faith.
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  Atheists and Anger...

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  are you an angry atheist?.

  personally i wish i could say anger is to strong a word, but from my point of view :-.

  a)i am angry that religion teaches children to hate " worldly people" at least that was my experience ad a j.w.

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  When i was a J.W i always treasured these words.

  Corintians 3v13 " love endures long as is patient and kind: love never is enviouse nor boils over with jelousey, is not boastful...

  And i am angry or rather lets say dissapointed that i learnt the meaning to those words outside the faith i learnt them in.
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  Atheists and Anger...

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  are you an angry atheist?.

  personally i wish i could say anger is to strong a word, but from my point of view :-.

  a)i am angry that religion teaches children to hate " worldly people" at least that was my experience ad a j.w.

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  Yes galaxie, i regretted ther term " anger" as soon as i posted.

  Anyway on the positive side, since leaving the W.T i can debaye woth out believing i am correct. And this is the whole point of debate, is it not? To listen to the viewpoints of othets and see things from a different perspective?

  Anyway i am still angry with how my former religion treated women, telling them to submit to their husbands, even when i could see husbands that treated women without respect.
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  Atheists and Anger...

  by new hope and happiness in

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  are you an angry atheist?.

  personally i wish i could say anger is to strong a word, but from my point of view :-.

  a)i am angry that religion teaches children to hate " worldly people" at least that was my experience ad a j.w.

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  Are you an angry atheist?

  Personally i wish i could say anger is to strong a word, but from my point of view :-

  A)i am angry that religion teaches children to hate " worldly people" At least that was my experience ad a J.W. From

  B) That children are made to fear their bodies may not be approved by God due to being gay.

  So i am relived i am now free of religion and can bring my child up based on love and my own integrity.

  As a group i think athiests are often repressed in Christian countries, for example:-

  A) If you an atheist soilder in the U.S armed forces have had prayer services pressured on them and atheist meetings broken up, by Christian superor officers.

  B) The 41st president of the U.S, George Bush said of atheists " No i dont know if atheists should be regarded as citizens nor should they be tegarded ad patriotic . This is one nation under God.

  C) It took untill 1961 in U.S A. for athiests to be guaranteed the right to serve on juries, testify in court or hold public office.

  I mean the list goes on, but unfortunately i am quite busy now. Anyway i submit this post as i would value your opinions upon my return later tonight.
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  Kennedy assassination....

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  to me its a great example of a totalitarian government's ability to manage information and keep us in the dark; .

  all right it was a long time ago.

  should we just forget about it?.

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  Thanks Terry:- so i think we can conclude Oswald acted alone . However in order to carry out the assasination he had the " good fortune" that circumstances beyound is control fell in his favour.

  So in an assasination sence Kennedy was unlucky and Hitler wad lucky.
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  Kennedy assassination....

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  to me its a great example of a totalitarian government's ability to manage information and keep us in the dark; .

  all right it was a long time ago.

  should we just forget about it?.

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  Apognopos, what you say is true. I think it's easy to make up conspiracy theries, which then become hard to disproove. The new book staing that Andy Kauffman never died shows people will believe and buy anything.

  Still if anyone feels they are certain on a conspiracy theory, please tell it and explain why.
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  WHY has the Governing Body become what it has become? History shows the way . . .

  by Terry in

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  if a human being has the desire to worship god, what could possibly stand in the way?.

  thousands of years ago tribes and nations used imagination to figure this out.. early humans made humble offers to the gods to curry favor and (perhaps) to bribe them.. offerings of food, prayers, and even blood were used to convince the supernatural realm of a sincere desire to negotiate favor and protection.. we all know this already, don't we?.

  step one: wooing a deity : offer something to god in return for a benefit.. _______________________________.

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  Maybe?

  The eyes on the book cover's make Jack Nicholson on the shinning look very friendly and pleasent...
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  WHY has the Governing Body become what it has become? History shows the way . . .

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if a human being has the desire to worship god, what could possibly stand in the way?.

  thousands of years ago tribes and nations used imagination to figure this out.. early humans made humble offers to the gods to curry favor and (perhaps) to bribe them.. offerings of food, prayers, and even blood were used to convince the supernatural realm of a sincere desire to negotiate favor and protection.. we all know this already, don't we?.

  step one: wooing a deity : offer something to god in return for a benefit.. _______________________________.

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  new hope and happiness

  Now i get where your at, keep those great posts and short threads comming !!